Wednesday, January 26, 2011

Repetition Tank - Try On Report and a Major Rant About Changes in Black Luon

I tried on the Repetition Tank today and was unimpressed. It's a nice enough tank but nothing special. This is tank is definitely not a universally flattering tank like the Scoop Neck or a make-over in a tank like the Happy Heat Tank. It only goes to a size 10 and I thought the tank fit true to size.

MAJOR RANT: I've been toying with the idea of getting some new luon crops (I haven't bought any in two or so years) so today I tried on Wunder Under Crops, Relaxed Fit Crops, and Gather and Crow Crops. I was dismayed at how itchy and scratchy the luon felt, like my old cheapo Marika and Danskin gym pants. One reason I fell in love with Lululemon was the tactile feel of luon - it was soft and soothing and felt like brushed cotton. I don't think you can say that now. The weave has also changed. When I bent over I could see the color of my underwear very clearly through the crops. That never happened in the past, no matter how tight they were. I could always see panty lines but not the color of my underwear. The last luon pants I bought were the Energize Pant when they were out last year (not this latest release but the first one) and the luon felt just fine - the right weight and texture. This new stuff sucks. I guess I will stick to buying the luxtreme bottoms or Zobha bottoms. I bought some Zobha Straight Leg Capris and the material felt a lot like (old) luon and hasn't pilled or roughened at all in the crotch area. Zobha doesn't breathe or wick as well as my (old) luon stuff but it has the right feel. I really hope Lululemon goes back to the old recipe for luon because this new stuff is not up to par.

24 comments:

Marci said...

Lululemon GEC recently posted some garbage on their facebook webpage about technical fabric expertise in response to a guest who questioned why product was being made in China.
They claim that only third world/communist countries have the "tecnical fabric expertise" to manufacture their clothes to there "high" standards, which I think is total BS. I questioned them why are the fabric running, pilling, feeling scratchy, see-through and not wearing well then? There was no such problem when the garmets were made in Canada- in fact that is how they gained their then-deserved quality reputation.
No response ofcourse... I am really careful about what I buy these days from this company and I haven't bought anything (and kept it) in two months now.

Vicky said...

I was wondering if it was just me, I tend to have dry itchy skin, so I wondered if it was just me. I recently tried on the relaxed fit, the stills and plain old black WU's and I just did not care for the feel of them!

Megan said...

A few months ago I tried on a shirt that was a circle-mesh-type tank and it was UNBEARABLY itchy.

I don't like how luon pants tend to wear (and collect dog hair), but I've been very happy with my Dash tights this year (luxtreme)

I also prefer luon when it's a static colorway - tends to feel a little silkier (for tanks and such)

LuluAddict said...

@Megan - I have non-Canadian (I think they were made in China) made pants that feel fine and very similar to some of my older Canadian made pants. However, the newest stuff does not feel like any of my older stuff at all. It's so depressing.

My new Aruba No Limit tank feels very soft so it could have been the color circle mesh. I know I tried on the black microstripe CRB recently and thought it felt very itchy.

Anonymous said...

I recently had to exchange my new (jan 2011) « Wunder under » exactly for the reason you describe: see through Luon fabric. That situation didn't occur with my old pair. Plus, I had to buy the “Wunder Reversible” to make sure we couldn’t see my underwear (double fabric and extra $).

So YES MAJOR decrease in Luon quality especially when lululemon athletica tag say “Play hard and sweat hard. Luon is preshrunk and created to withstand 5 years of physical atheletic abuse »

Overall, very disappointed Luon fabric recently (in Canada).

hann said...

I am so glad it is not just me. I recently bought the organic wunder unders in multi state of mind/heathered ivory/ and waterwall and I did a yoga class in them the next day. They were completely see through!!! The girls behind me informed me halfway through class you could see my undergarments :(

Anonymous said...

The see-through problem also occurs with the luxtreme crops. I cannot tell you how many ladies at my gym have given the world a show when they bent over in their luxtreme!! I always check that before I buy because I have seen it so often :)

Glow said...

Repetition Tank- I tried it on yesterday, and I agree with you. It didn't look bad on me, but I wasn't very tempted to buy it. I almost always wear a Flow Y under my tanks, and I didn't like it paired with this one. The v neckline makes them look odd together, same with the thin straps at the back, if you cross them.

LuluAddict said...

@ anon 2:19 - I know luxtreme is kind of see through and some styles seem worse than others but I wear them for spin for max coolness and try not to bend over in them. I always try to wear my Gather Together or Wear With All with them so my rear is covered.

houndlvr67 said...

I think that the luon mix changed about a year ago-I refuse to buy it. I totally agree, the new stuff is thin, itchy, and pills-reminds me of Nike.
I would imagine that they will try jacking with the Scuba hoodie next.

LuluAddict said...

@houndlvr67 - One would think with the hefty mark up on Lululemon and record profits they would have some room to absorb increased cotton costs and also go back to the old luon vendor. One can always hope.

They did start playing with the luon mix about a year ago but now it seems to have infected everything whereas it used to just a few items - certain Grooves, Astro pants, etc. It used to be you could find the older style luon fabric but not anymore.

Becky said...

This makes me happy that I have no luon bottoms, other than a pair of static Gather and Crow crops, and a pair of black Pique Grooves. I find the pique in the Grooves is not see through, and the static Gather and Crow's seems to be safe also.

So, this makes me wonder if the Groove Shorts are ok (as in not see through), or should I wait and hope they come out with a Pique version? (I do LOVE the feeling of the Pique).

Anonymous said...

I'm new to lululemon garments, so I can not say much about the old Luon. The crops I have are a bit thin, but all of then have a silky and smooth feel. But I did notice that some garments are more soft than others (like static and heathered colors). I did not check if I can see my underwear when in a bent position, will check for that. I do wish the crops could be a little ticker.

momof5 said...

I felt that way when I tried on the yogi dance crop --see thru when you bend over and thin luon -- That is so lame that they are scrimping on quality --

I aslo felt that the new sunburst grooves felt slick -- like cheap marika quality -not soft like my old ones --I am sending them back

Anonymous said...

I'm sad. I wanted a new pair of black WU since I've lost weight working out in my old pair. (First Lulu crops I bought 2yrs ago) Now I feel like won't get the same quality.

You've got me interested in trying Zobha. I've also purchased this other brand of fitness clothing called Kyodan made in Canada bought at a TJMaxx. The fiber contents were pretty much the same. These crops have held up as well as my lulu and, at a fraction of what lulu costs. So I might just look for more of this brand.

Must remember to do the bend over test on my pants...I never think about checking that.

Anonymous said...

The mix of the lulu's luon fabric has changed over the years. I have this pair of Gather and Crow Crop,Coal Denim. The crop is so itchy on me!

Anonymous said...

What a timely post. I just found a hole in the crotch of my angel wunderunders. My friend had the exact same problem. I have probably only worn them ten times, but they are old enough that Lulu won't do anything about it. :(

Anonymous said...

I love my lululemon collection and have been a devoted customer for nearly two years. DEVOTED and loyal, borderline obsessed. Being a Pilates instructor, most if not all of my wardrobe has become lulu. Loved it - until recently. The quality of luon flat out sucks. I could buy crops at costco for an 1/8 of the price, minus the gusset and they might be better quality. I haven't been able to buy my beloved WU's OR grooves... It's disheartening. Lululemon is selling out and selling us short - yet their profits are skyrocketing.

LuluAddict said...

@ anon 5:20 pm - You might luck out digging through the stack of Wunder Unders at your local store. Sometimes older stock doesn't get sold but it may be the case that this is only for the less popular sizes like the 12s. Let your fingers be your guide when you feel the WUs.

@ anon 8:21 pm - I am totally bummed, too. I love Lululemon and it's so disheartening that one of the things I loved the most about them - the feel of luon is gone. So many different items are coming up with quality issues. Lulumum just posted a photo of her brand new Raw Blue DSPs unraveling on FB. She hasn't even had them a week. Lululemon just recalled two different tops (the Purple Crush Speed Up tank and the Concord Distance Pullover) after they were released. When will they do something about it exactly? It will catch up to them. People aren't going to pay $100 for clothes that fall apart.

LuluAddict said...

@ anon 8:19 pm - Won't your local store repair the hole for you?

Amanda said...

WHY IS IT that they NEVER respond to confrontation about quality?? (Other than "there is no change in quality" BS) I find it extremely unprofessional. I will not be paying $100's on clothes that fall apart or feel like a pair of Target workout pants.

Anonymous said...

Yes yes yes the quality is going downhill...very quickly, in fact. The fabric is NOT the same, no matter what these "educators" tell us to believe. Do they think we're stupid, and can't tell the difference between a quality fabric that lasts for years, and a piece of junk fabric made in China that appears to be no better than the lower-end brands found at Target, for example? It's maddening!!! And they have the nerve to continue to charge big bucks for products that are no longer up to standard. I've been a Lulu fan since they were just starting out, and I feel they're letting me down in favor of PROFITS. I have decided to boycott Lululemon, and have convinced a number of others to do the same. If those same people boycott and tell others, well...you can see where this will go. We must insist on quality if they expect to get away with the prices. I will gladly pay a lot of money for high-quality workout gear; I live in it, as a Pilates teacher. Zobha pants don't fit me very well, but the fabric is better. I do LOVE Elisabetta Rogiani pants: incredibly flattering, and the fabric, though thinner, NEVER pills or has static issues. Just an idea. Listen up Lululemon, you're going to lose your original core of supporters if you keep up this nonsense.

LuluAddict said...

@ anon 4:02 pm - I'd love to hear about more brands that you like - as an instructor your input will have real meaning. Unless Lululemon changes their luon back, I won't be buying any more luon crops or pants from them so I will be in the market for a new brand. They killed my favorite things about them: feel, fit, and look. The new crops don't make your @ss look great at all - they show every flaw and dimple. I am going to check out the Elisabetta Rogiani. Have you tried Beyond Yoga? They are very soft but they are thinner and reveal a lot, too, and the wicking is not as good as Lululemon's old stuff (I don't know how the new luon wicks). The supplex also tends to get rough. I was also looking at the Lole website and they look interesting. Anyway, please get back to us with some other brands you recommend for fit and function for exercise.

Anonymous said...

Wow I am so glad I stumbled upon this webpage... I thought I was crazy in thinking that I was the only one who thought the Luon fabric made me itchy! I am sad that all of us encountered this quality issue but I feel better that I am not alone. I also tried the brand at T.J. Maxx called Kyodan and it reminds me of Lululemon but at a fraction of the cost.