Saturday, July 7, 2012

Method for Pre-Washing Bleeders

There is a resident stain expert, Ms. Laura B., in our lulu Facebook groups who swears this method should fix our bleeding lulu. I am trying it tonight on my Pow Pink Cool Racerback and will let you know if I experience any bleeding down the line. Since I have the "bad" pH perspiration I'll find out one way or another. This should ideally be done after you take the tags off a new piece of lulu, before you wear it:

  • wash ONCE in cold water with NO detergent
  • followed by TWO washes in HOT water WITH detergent
  • after than launder as normal, which for most of us is in cold water
Laura says that the hot water is needed to remove the excess dye molecules. Since most of us launder our lulu in cold water excess dye molecules can remain dormant for several washes until heat or humidity hits the floating dye molecules and the garment bleeds. She said she used this method on her Flash Vinyasa scarf and Flash Cool Racerback after she got purple marks (self-dying) and hasn't had any more problems with those items. I think I'll go back and try a couple of hot washes on my Flash/Dune Cool Racerback to see if it fixes my purple armpits in that item.


57 comments:

Cari H said...

very interesting. I am going to have to try this on my pow pink CRB because I love and really do not want to deal with crazy bleeding issues.

Anonymous said...

Can this method work if I handwash my items? I don't have a washer and dryer (ah the perks of NYC).

Anonymous said...

Seems like a lot of work to go through for high priced merchandise.

Anonymous said...

Yes, a lot of work and a lot of WATER ! NOT very ECO-FRIENDLY ! Not to mention all the toxic chemicals in the dyes.... :(

seattlite said...

Wow. This is a serious amount of effort for an overly-priced tank top.
Lulu needs to get their act together.

Anonymous said...

There is an AWESOME thread on Lulu's facebook page about the bleeding issues. I wonder what Lulu has to say about that.

Tara @ Sweat like a Pig said...

Very interesting. I was wondering why my Pow pink bra didn't leak until after a few washes. I buy my stuff from Australia and the UK, where it costs about 1.5 times what you're paying in the US. When I'm paying $70-80 for a sports bra, I really shouldn't have to go to all this effort. Is there not a way they could do this in advance, instead of having people ruin their clothes like I did because of the bleeding issue? Frustrating.

Minda said...

Sounds unthinkably energetic.
lol - how ironic since its workout wear!

Lulu Citron said...

I washed my Paris pink once in warm water and did not have any bleeding issue after that!

Anonymous said...

I haven't had issues with any of my lulu. I rinse everything before I wear it in warmish water, soak in cold with a bit of detergent for 15 minutes and rinse well with cold water. I have a flash pace setter, flow y, dune flash crb, flash light define, ray crb and flash no limits tank. No colour transfer at all. I ran the other night in my ray crb and flash flow y and I just did a load with all of these together (minus the no limits) with no issues...

Anonymous said...

Thanks for sharing the tip! I have a front loader with load sensing, so I don't feel I will be doing too much harm to the environment with this washing method :) One could easily do these steps in their bathroom sink if they are concerned about wasting water/energy. I would do the vinegar soak in cold water and then follow up with a hot soak with detergent, rinse in cold.
It IS ridiculous though that we are having to do this with such an expensive product...really bad call on LLL's part to use cheap dye on neon colors?!?! I really hope they get their stuff together bc their fit, style and functionality are still my favorite among all athletic brands. That being said, I have yet to personally have any issues with any of my Lulu bleeding but I only have one flash tank and one ray tank and crops with flash light at the waistband.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for passing along the information. BUT I think it's absolutely ridiculous that I have to complete a special washing process so that my $60 tank top doesn't ruin my other clothes and my $12 Target tank top has zero issues. What's sad is that Lulu knows what they need to do. They've been making quality clothes for years but they just making getting cheaper and cheaper quality. And we keep buying it.

Anonymous said...

Yes, Lulu needs to do whatever is necessary with its fabric before using it to make its severely overpriced items.

Anonymous said...

For me I think part of the bleeding is the high efficiency washers where it uses a fraction of water per load compared to the older lower efficiency ones. The higher concentration of the dye while it is being washed spreads more potently to the other garments. I have one so I wash the bleeders by themselves a couple of times. I then wash it in the quick load once I don't see problems anymore. Thus is what I do with most of my lulu. I also dry mine in the dryer. I have handwashed also. The problem is you really have to agitate the garment and wash it in hot water. I microwave mine and pour it on the garment then let it sit until it is manageable in temperature. Oh the things we do. I hate clothes that bleed. I do sort my laundry regularly so I have only had one surprise bleeding with lulu.

Anonymous said...

Also I use the nordstrom lingerie wash that they sell for bras and have had no issues...luck. with paris, flash, pow etc. SOmetimes I think the stronger detergents pull out the more saturated colors.
Maybe this with the reccomended washing in this post and we cal all not worry? Here is to hoping.

Anonymous said...

I havent had any lulu bleeding issues yet. One brand that bleeds alot is victoria secret. Anyway, Im trying out my own version of this tip. Im soaking my new bright orange lulu item-i never remember color names- in cold water, then cold with vinegar than hot. The cold soak turned water pink, with each soak getting less pink. Then ill wash with detergent in cold. I feel this uses less water and slightly easier. Hopefully it will work.

LuluAddict said...

@ anon 7:32 am - Interesting theory about the HE washers. I put a Shout Color Catcher in with the tank to see how much pink came out and it barely colored the sheet at all that I can tell.

I also rubbed a white cloth on the wet CRB afterwards to see if I could get some pink to rub off and nothing came off. However, my ultimate test will be wearing it for a sweaty workout with an old white bra underneath.

I haven't had any issue with my bright lulu coloring my other items but then I make sure to wash them with similar colors or black. My biggest concerns are when they are wet/damp in the laundry basket or hanging dry and touching lighter colored items and transferring color that way.

Susan (TJI) said...

I've been wearing lululemon for years and I have been using a front loader for years. I never had any bleeding until the savage green sun tops and the angel blue sun tops a couple years ago... then everything was fine until late last year. So, I don't think it is the front loaders.

Anonymous said...

I don't have a HE washer and I've had issues with bleeding (not while washing, but color transfer while working out). So bleeding issues are not specific to people with HE washers.

Anonymous said...

I love Nordstrom's lingerie wash but learn from my mistake..don't use it in your HE washer. I put a teeny tiny amount in and it was like on the Brady Bunch when Bobby used an entire box of soap in the washer.

Anonymous said...

I have not had any bleeding issues yet and all I do is wash on the "active wear" setting on my front loader. Which is warm water wash, cold water rinse and low spin cycle. I don't wash lights and darks together, and brights go by themselves or with darks.

Anonymous said...

fyi on vinegar. it will not help you with LLL gear.

"As I was growing up my mother always added salt to the water when hand washing clothes that bled dye to "set the color". I've also heard about adding vinegar. Unfortunately, neither will work on clothes that have already been dyed. Don't waste your time or resources.

There is some history to the salt and vinegar stories. When you dye cotton yarn or fabrics, salt in the dye bath does help the dye absorb into the fabric instead of staying suspended in the water. For wool or nylon, vinegar does help the dye absorb. But neither is a dye fixative for already dyed fabric or fibers."

http://laundry.about.com/od/laundryproblems/f/How-Can-I-Stop-Fabric-From-Bleeding-Dye-Stop-Clothes-Dye-Bleeding.htm

Amy B said...

I have been washing with woolite. So far no bleeding problems!

Anonymous said...

This is absolutely ridiculous! I will put that kind of effort on my designer clothes or silks etc....but lulu?! Come on! I'm not going to wash my WORKOUT clothes 3 times (especially when half of them pill easily too) just so that I can wear them without bleeding.

I'm sorry lulu, but your stuff isn't that great.

Anonymous said...

My pow CRB bled when I just put one edge of it under the faucet as a test! Kool Aid!!! I love the color but cannot be so worried and extra sensitive over workout apparel....VERY disappointed.

Anonymous said...

OT Roger Federer wins Wimbledon Final! Awesome!!!

Anonymous said...

" Still, Americans didn’t hold back from buying yoga pants this holiday season, Lululemon’s update shows. Christine Day, Lululemon’s CEO, said consumers 'have responded exceptionally well to the robust assortment and bright color palette for the holidays, and momentum continues with the new spring product offerings.'”

http://www.forbes.com/sites/thestreet/2012/01/10/tiffany-lululemon-divide-the-luxury-world/

Anonymous said...

I was at my local store yesterday and was very tempted by the pop orange crb... it's a color that flatters me. Also saw the pow/dune stripe daily tank and darn near walked out of the store with both. Really worred about the bleeding issue. Tried the ebb and flows in a 10 in the indigo... TOTALLY see thru, and I run between an 8-10. The cotton daily tanks are also incredibly sheer, but at least they are soft. So lulu lost my $$ this time around. And besides I am a little tired of looking like a clone when I walk into the gym or barre class. OT, has anyone ever tried clothing from Sweaty Betty?

Anonymous said...

Off topic..but what detergent does everyone use with their lulu? Any one good at preventing pilling?!

Thanks <3

Anonymous said...

I have skin allergies and use "All Free and Clear". No pilling of my Lulu gear but has had quite a bit of color bleed.

Since the thread has gone pretty OT with product recommendations I really want to reccomend O'Neill 365 again. Their stuff is pretty much all basics but the cuts are cute and none of the brights bleed. The best part is the fabric is amazing and does not show sweat marks AT ALL. I have taken to gushing about it to everyone I know who works out a lot. The boyfriend got me some items around Christmas time when he read about the fabric and has launched a whole new obsession, hehe.

Anonymous said...

I can't relate to any of the bleeding or pilling issues. LLL gear does not always go alone, dresser stuff such as Banana Republic shirts or dresses go in as well. Like colours together. Codl wash. Everything is washed inside out as it protects and prolongs the life of your clothes: my Mom's way. Hang to dry.

Liquid Tide, cold or regular. Don't have a HE washer, just a regular one. No fabric softener.

Anonymous said...

* cold

Anonymous said...

I use Woolite Dark and I've never had bleeding issues.

Beth said...

I use Penguin Sport Wash for all of my workout clothes, including all of my lulu. Haven't had any problems with it and it takes away the smell.

Anonymous said...

While we're on this helpful topic... has anyone been able to *prevent outrageous pilling based on detergent they use?

I wash on cold wash, line dry, eco/sensitive detergent (no softener) that does wonders on my other clothes.

I'm trying to have a pair of pants returned with ridiculous pilling all over, the fabric looks cheap and nasty. Not normal wear and tear. But they insist its down to normal wear (photos) and have asked me to pay shipping both ways to assess further.. Waa?

Sophia said...

I use method free and clear or 7th generation free and clear. HE washer. Wash EVERYTHING together (whites, brights, darks, denim-all of it) and no in-laundry bleeding. All clothes touch when wet, no problems. I have sweat-related bleeding, no matter how many time I wash items. Some just never stop sweat-bleeding. But the bleeding always washes out (so far)

Sophia said...

@anon 2:31- pulling has nothing to do with your detergent - detergent wont prevent pulling. Pulling is caused by abrasion, plain and simple. Whether a garment pills easily is due to how long and strong the fibers are that we're used to make the garment. Long, strong fibers don't pull easily when rubbed. Short, weak ones do. Turning your garment inside out when washing will help prevent pilling as the other clothes won't be rubbing against (the outside of) your pants as much. This will help. But ultimately, unless you never wear them, you will encounter abrasion. And if the garment is made cheaply (short weak fibers) then it will pill.

Anonymous said...

After reading everything people have to do to stop or prevent bleeding issues, I'm exhausted!! LOL... far as I'm concerned....we are paying TOP DOLLAR for a Premium Brand and THIS SHOULD NOT BE HAPPENING!!! Lulu is cutting corners, using cheap, possibly harmful dyes, made in china and they keep upping their prices.... Personally, I have drawn the line...at what I will and won't buy and in the past 2 years...I have cut my Lulu spending by 60%!!!! I only buy now, if I feel it's aN absolute... "must have!" Lululemon seems to be going in a very bad direction with their quality...and I won't be going with them! I don't have the time or energy to waste my life away in my laundry room "baby-Ing" my $60 Lulu shirt. LOL.... I'd much rather be out...running with my baby or spending a romantic evening with my husband. :)

Sophia said...

*pill. Damn autocorrect

Anonymous said...

I just washed a small load of workout clothes in my washing machine, using cold water and Tide Sport detergent.

As I pulled everything out of the washer, I decided to throw caution to the wind and toss everything into the dryer, even though I usually hang my lulu Swiftly shirts and running shorts and skirts up to dry. I was just Not in the Mood to baby my workout clothes today. It all turned out just fine.

That's me, living dangerously. The Crazy Laundry Warrior :)

Anonymous said...

@ 2:55pm: LOVE IT!! YOU GO GIRL!! I am proud if you! :)

Anonymous said...

Sorry....I meant @ 3:30 pm anonymous. :)

Sandra said...

I returned my bruised berry define jacket because 1/2 an hour in to wearing it the fibers were coming out of the stitching just on the left side and I could see white "spandex" fibers when I would gently brush my finger along only on left side though. I can't imagine what it would have done if I washed it or bought it in my normal size 4 instead of the looser size 8. I was super bummed because the educator could not order me or find a replacement. I am still super bummed... Third defective product in less than a month.

Ali said...

I always wash my lulu after wearing, sometimes I only do one article at a time but usually will wash an outfit together (perks of living at home). I use Tide cold water HE, wash on cold with a low spin cycle and then dry on low air. I haven't had any bleeding issues yet thankfully.

I find it interesting that flash/dune is turning purple with bleeding! I called the GEC a month ago because my Flash/Dune define was covered in purple pilling and they told me it was pulling another fabric... Maybe it was just itself? I ended up shaving it haha (so funny to think you have to shave a jacket!). Lulu is extremely high maintenance, it's getting a bit wearisome. I don't know what I'll do when I don't live at home and have the luxury of using my dad's HE front loader and have to pay! Probably still do laundry at home...

Kristin said...

@ anon 2:55pm

I hear ya sista! I feel the same way. Why should I have to spend time and energy soaking, resoaking, washing, washing and rewashing my lulu items that are meant for high intensity, sweaty workouts (like running)? I only hope Lulu gets their act together. But as someone stated earlier, lulu's main concern is about shareholder profits and nothing else. So true.

Anonymous said...

If you use this method, can all the colors be washed together or do you have to do separate cycles for each color? I.e. 1 cold/2 hot cycle for flash/flash light, 1 cold/2 hot cycle for pow pink, etc vs. putting all the bleeding color together in one cycle?

Anonymous said...

I think someone ought to send a link to some of these posts to the financial analysts that cover lululemon stock.

Or lulu lovers call a strike, one week before month-end where we agree not to buy from stores or website.

The way to get their attention is for revenues and the stock price to fall

Anonymous said...

LULU has lost me. Went this weekend and although i liked three things, I was only there to return my lift and sep bra that was advertised as as having removable cups and doesn't. Walked out empty handed and with my $52 back in my pocket to go spend. Went to Nordie's and bought an Alo tank and Nike tank. Great colors and I trust them not to bleed. And what's more, if they do, I can return them. Plus NO FEAR taking the tags off was liberating. You're right Christine, you are NOT Nordies and as a result you've lost my business. I am burnt out on Lulu after going strong a few years, it isn't worth the trouble. Too bad, because I really like the people and their old stuff but cest la vie. Moving on. I am only here now to figure out how to wash my flash that is sweat stained (and LULU can bite me for saying it is MY fault for my PH) and see what to do with my indigo WU's that are also likely to bleed (and don't get me started on the new gusset). EPIC FAILURE LULU. I also sold your stock because you are in for trouble when you lost me as a shopper (I tried really hard to hang in).

Anonymous said...

(I'm annon 2:55) As I was reading all the comments, where people say...they are sick of baby-ing all their Lulu and paying top dollar and having to wash items seperately....I was wondering....if the infamous Christine Day knows about this blog and reads it?! Maybe she SHOULD --might knock her off her high horse, then again maybe it will be the plummeting stock that will knock her off her horse! :) LOL... She sounds...like a real winner!

MonkeyGirl said...

I agree with Anon 2:55- not interested in working so hard for workout gear I wear often- I do lulu only loads, throw it in cold, delicate wash with wool lite and line dry. That's fine- but all these other steps? Over it.

I got a bit of lipstick on a lilac bra and wiped it off immediately- it bleached a spot out (wiped it with water, and lipstick came right off). The colors are just so delicate. Lulu saying it only works with some people's PH- total crap. They do realize they are marketing their clothes for people to be active in? I'm pissed.

Anonymous said...

Finally wore my BB CRB to yoga class today and despite soaking it in a cold water/vinegar wash with no bleeding, I couldn't focus on the class coz I was worried it might suddenly bleed due to sweat. Which is really sad because the reason we spend so much on LLL is so we don't have to worry about our clothes during a workout. :-(

Now we worry about CT issues, bleeding, low support, see thru fabrics...

On the bright side, the BB CRB bleed :-)

Anonymous said...

Oops, I meant to say DID NOT BLEED! :-)

Anonymous said...

Wow, that's a lot of work for the price I'm paying!

I followed LLL's instructions on washing my flash zippered CRB before wearing it.

I finally wore it to a hot yoga class and experienced bleeding on my white cover up that I wore on top of the CRB on the way home from the studio. Yes, I was sweaty! Thankfully, the flash color came out after washing the cover up immediately when I got home.

Now I'm concerned about the deep indigo scoop me up tank I just purchased!

I'm not liking the extra cost and time of owning a LLL tank (extra washings, worries about bleeding, etc.). I should be able to work out and not have to think of these things... rather disappointing.

Laura B. said...

I used this technique in the sink and not the washing machine. I am far too frugal to waste water but this technique did help my flash items.

Laura said...

So can anyone get on Lulu's facebook page?

There was a huge thread yesterday and this morning about their pH excuse and the bleeding issues and now their facebook page is down.

Coincidence?

Anonymous said...

Exactly. Lulu should be doing this before they made their products

LuluAddict said...

@ anon 11:19 am - The pinks that showed up for the holiday season is when the bleeding started. This Xmas was the craziest I have seen lulu stores. Let's see how the sales data look this coming Xmas or even a couple of quarters after that. It takes awhile for the data to catch up to the actuality.